Lot of liberal pundit handwringing to the effect of "we can close schools now that we know of the great harms to kid's mental health" which, yes, but... (CTU maybe aside) is anyone pushing closures that aren't solely prompted by staff shortages due to their own infections?
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Like pundits seem to be fighting the last war. Excepting SFUSD, they've been mostly back for a year. And even SFUSD isn't headed toward indefinite closures.
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Suppose you think that school closures were a disastrous, invasion-of-Iraq magnitude (or perhaps greater) policy decision. Shouldn't that merit some further reflection?
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You think this was a policy decision (which of course is totally a decentralized one) equivalent to the deaths of 460,000 people and the destabilizing of an entire region? And...do you think parents and educators have not been reflecting, ffs?
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Yeah, I think depriving tens of millions of school children of an in-person education for a year or longer is absolutely on that magnitude. No question.
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I mean, just for starters, where excepting SFUSD were kids kept out of school for a year. Please account for the "tens of millions." And, often, it was their own parents pushing for remote (or at least remote options) until vaccinations were available.
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Replying to @ClaraJeffery
There are about 50 million schoolchildren and 20 million college students in the US. They experienced a spectrum of disruptions from modest to severe. The total amount of learning loss was extremely large.

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I guess you can say "well, it was worth it, because we prevented some number of COVID cases". Or you can say "we were operating under the fog of uncertainty and sometimes people fuck up under those circumstances". But these were VERY high-stakes, high-magnitude decisions.
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what happened to you man
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Replying to @NateSilver538
Uh huh. And you would have ordered them all back into in person exactly when? Before we knew something of risks to them? Before their teachers or elderly relatives at home had vaccines? When bodies were piling up in NYC morgues?
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I'm saying the magnitude of societal impacts from these decisions is extremely large and it's ridiculous to suggest it's offensive to talk about that.
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What exact metric are you using to quantify learning loss, such that you can assert it was "extremely large"?
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"Extremely large learning loss" is such a funny way to express this.
If we’re quantifying it, how many hours of American kids’ learning equals one Iraqi child’s life?
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I have solely been taking online college classes for a few years now, after attending an on-campus university over 20 years ago. I also work at a college that offers both online and in-person instruction. It’s a high-quality education either way.
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Fwiw (not much) I teach two university classes. Comparing the virtual year to the in-person instruction last fall, the in-person semester saw far more disruptions.
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How very dare you, sir! How dare you think your anecdotal experience as a teacher disproves Nate’s oh-so-not-at-all-researched beliefs?!?!