Replying to @ClaraJeffery
Suppose you think that school closures were a disastrous, invasion-of-Iraq magnitude (or perhaps greater) policy decision. Shouldn't that merit some further reflection?
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You think this was a policy decision (which of course is totally a decentralized one) equivalent to the deaths of 460,000 people and the destabilizing of an entire region? And...do you think parents and educators have not been reflecting, ffs?
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Yeah, I think depriving tens of millions of school children of an in-person education for a year or longer is absolutely on that magnitude. No question.
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I mean, just for starters, where excepting SFUSD were kids kept out of school for a year. Please account for the "tens of millions." And, often, it was their own parents pushing for remote (or at least remote options) until vaccinations were available.
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There are about 50 million schoolchildren and 20 million college students in the US. They experienced a spectrum of disruptions from modest to severe. The total amount of learning loss was extremely large.
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Uh huh. And you would have ordered them all back into in person exactly when? Before we knew something of risks to them? Before their teachers or elderly relatives at home had vaccines? When bodies were piling up in NYC morgues?
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I'm saying the magnitude of societal impacts from these decisions is extremely large and it's ridiculous to suggest it's offensive to talk about that.
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It’s offensive to imply that wrenching policy decisions in the face of mass risk, made by both educators and parents, that everybody knew were fraught, were the same as an illegal WAR that’s lead to 20 years of horror, yes.
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Personally, I think the returns to high-quality education, both from a societal and individual standpoint, are extremely high. And I think the literature mostly supports that. I used to think this was a standard liberal viewpoint but apparently it isn't any longer.
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Nobody’s saying that it isn’t Nate. So when exactly would you have mandated all schools have opened? April 2020? sept? Jan 2021, by which point most had? What would you have done if 40% of teachers quit? Or even more parents pulled kids out altogether?
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Replying to @ClaraJeffery
Personally, I'd have kept schools open and given teachers hazard pay and lifetime eligibility for Medicare. Because I think high-quality education is extremely valuable and depriving it to tens of millions of children was a huge mistake.

Jan 6, 2022 · 3:43 AM UTC

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“Ok teachers you get hazard pay but you might die. And if you don’t die and get really sick, you get….lifetime Medicare! How about it teachers? Sound like we have a deal? Hey, why did you all quit your jobs?!?!!”- Superintendent Nate Silver
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Promised health care? Ask 9/11 first responders and veterans who were around burn pits about that promised health care for hazardous duty.
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…the entire time? Even before there was a vaccine? Are you fucking serious?
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Tbh this follow up by Nate is even more unhinged than the original Iraq analogy which I didn’t think could be topped. It took him like ten minutes to top it. So while millions work from home we send our kids to the front lines of a once in a century pandemic. Very normal stuff
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You think they'd be getting a "high-quality" education if 40% of the teachers quit?
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So if he trauma related to remote learning is comparable to a 20 year war, where does the trauma of constant worry of mass shootings at school fall, Nate? Because my daughter's school has had 2 lockdowns in the last 2 days. You really need some perspective, dude.
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The other week he realized he needed perspective after discussing with other elite blue check accounts about how elites could understand the perspective of normal plebs. Really insane stuff.
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Closing schools didn’t inflict the damage to schoolchildren. The once in a lifetime pandemic did that. Closing schools saved countless lives.
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Who takes care of my kids if I died? My 8th graders? Of course I’d rather be in person…but I’d also rather teach in a district with a mask mandate, smaller class sizes, and a vaccine mandate. I’m in person and it’s freaking nonstop dread.
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Those days when 4 kids get sent home from your 6th period class because they tested positive, and none of them could be made to keep their mask on. 😒
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